buttbongfiesta:

What is this DVD collection that they speak of?  Does it exist?

 

http://www.galitsin-news.com/newsletter.php 

It did exist.  But wouldn't recommend to risk your money on it.  This DVD business is one of the things why he got into troubles.

 

motostrider:

So is it time to start deleting any gallit-sin picture archives we might have on our hard drives? Too soon? :)

NO

buttbongfiesta:

What is this DVD collection that they speak of?  Does it exist?

funky2004:

It did exist.  But wouldn't recommend to risk your money on it.  This DVD business is one of the things why he got into troubles.

Funky, your recommendation is correct, but it is not this DVD business that go him into trouble, it's another, parallel one, done in the same studios apparently .

lou2005:

Oksana:

On average he told me that the girl would be at least 2 weeks with him.
And he promised the girl $10.00 for each day of shooting!!!!! And if
you will work well then you will be paid $30.00.

Incredible!!??!!



What a rip-off from that dirty smug...



As it seems, even if he would have paid his models 500 bucks per
shoot - he could have kept his hummer and buy a Ferrari, too. (o.k. - there
may also be drug money in it, but not all !!! )





Infos on his membership-rates:

30 days of web-site access.


$24.95 for 30 days then $19.95 recurring every 30 days



$34.95 for 30 days (non-recurring)




$99.95 for 90 days with access to full-screen videos then $89.95 recurring every 90 days

Only Premium Members get access to full-screen video!


Now HDV films - high definition videos in 1280 x 720 pixels!

P.S.: removed this "sign now" part....

In eastern countries, in direct work with girls Hegre pay 100 euros for 2 hours. in 2 hours he usually make 4-5 differeny sets, wich in model expenses makes about 20-25 euros per set for him, not bad considering that he video tapes the sessions, video used too on his site.
fact.

In Russia if Galtsin it is arrested on accusation of a porno. That all girls which worked with him . Can be caused by police. For evidence against or for Galitsin. As the majority of models. Hide about the families. That they do{make} naked photos. That criminal charge about creation of a porno. Which will be publicly read in court and shown on TV. for the girl will be pernicious. Its{her} reputation will be lowered{omitted} up to the whore. And people will not find out, she posed simply. Or inserted in pussy dildo or still that that.

One girl would will want that showed her on TV in business about a porno of studio. And it is especial in that that she there did

 

 

In Russia if Galtsin it is arrested on accusation of a porno. That all girls which worked with him . Can be caused by police. For evidence against or for Galitsin. As the majority of models. Hide about the families. That they do{make} naked photos. That criminal charge about creation of a porno. Which will be publicly read in court and shown on TV. for the girl will be pernicious. Its{her} reputation will be lowered{omitted} up to the whore. And people will not find out, she posed simply. Or inserted in pussy dildo or still that that.

One girl would will want that showed her on TV in business about a porno of studio. And it is especial in that that she there did

 

 

 

Some items about this affair written elsewhere:

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/showthread.php?t=92180

http://www.master-x.com/forum/topics/71772/

 

If I read that statement correctly, and from what Oksana said, it sounds like the kiddie porn charges are either media lies or trumped up charges, and Galitsin is really being charged with unlawful distribution of porn -- because, apparantly, ALL porn in Russia is illegal.  It sounds like this may be a law left over from the USSR days, and is enforced only sporadically, hence why there are so many Russian porn sites.  It sounds like Grig finally attracted too much attention with his "growing empire", and it also sounds like he coerced models into doing stuff they didn't want to do.

I would guess that one or more of the models finally decided to complain to the authorities, and that's why he's locked up.  Of course, it could also be because the local police department wants a "payoff" from him, after they discovered how much money he was pulling in from his websites -- my understanding is that this is not an uncommon event over there, unfortunately.

Quote:and it also sounds like he coerced models into doing stuff they didn't want to do. There is a word for coercing a woman into a sexual act against her will. It's called rape. Not a minor thing. vacuity

I found this comment on another forum yesterday:

Among other issues with minors ... not directly him, but for using his studios (facilities) in Volgograd by a porno filming company that presumably was hiring minors ...

He was reported by Alice's family with whom he performed a non-consented complete sexual act in front of a camera ... that shoot was included in a video for sale ... the cameraman was Irina P_______ (also arrested), his first model -known as Valentina- and now his 'girlfriend' ... he has been firmly charged as a rapist

I removed Valentina's real name, as it only came up twice on google, and she modelled under a different name for a reason... but then I saw it was mentioned here anyway.

Non-consented? It didn't seem that way if you watched the clip, although I sensed she was embarrassed and rather hid her face during sex. But probably the shoot was in violation of her contract.

I thought the victory dance at the end was repulsive and insulting to the model and the viewers.

 

All in all, much ado about nothing? 

irinotecan:

If I read that statement correctly, and from what Oksana said, it sounds like the kiddie porn charges are either media lies or trumped up charges, and Galitsin is really being charged with unlawful distribution of porn -- because, apparantly, ALL porn in Russia is illegal.  It sounds like this may be a law left over from the USSR days, and is enforced only sporadically, hence why there are so many Russian porn sites.  It sounds like Grig finally attracted too much attention with his "growing empire", and it also sounds like he coerced models into doing stuff they didn't want to do.

I would guess that one or more of the models finally decided to complain to the authorities, and that's why he's locked up.  Of course, it could also be because the local police department wants a "payoff" from him, after they discovered how much money he was pulling in from his websites -- my understanding is that this is not an uncommon event over there, unfortunately.

Irinotecan... your analysis is spot on.....

I'd like to say that both I personally, and the entire oxanababy-team support Oksana in this matter...we did indeed talk about it 1,5 years ago, and it seems like justice has finally caught up with 'Grig'. 

- mike =)).

shhs:

Non-consented? It didn't seem that way if you watched the clip, although I sensed she was embarrassed and rather hid her face during sex. But probably the shoot was in violation of her contract.

I thought the victory dance at the end was repulsive and insulting to the model and the viewers.

All in all, much ado about nothing? 

did you actually understand what she was saying?

Oksana, I'm shocked by your story but I think this problem is not only happening in Russia.
I'm sure it exists in any other country too. It's a question of providing what is demanded. I'm surprised the Russian mob isn't all over this. Big bucks to be made, not with pictures but certainly with porn movies.
Underage models being tempted with easy money and then being made to do things they cannot be proud of, all too common, you can easily see the relation with prostitution.
What is the age of consent in Russia? From what age can naked pictures be legally made?
[EDIT : if I understand Mike correctly all "porn" is illegal in Russia.. what is considered porn however? ]
There is so much beauty in women and it is always sad that it is being exploited for money.


Irinotecan, you are probably right.. Galitsin must have become greedy and forgot to pay the authorities. Sad but true.

BTW Mike, I like the oxanababy site.. are you really from the Netherlands? The relation between netherlands and russia has always been special hasn't it..

I'd like to see more substantiated facts and less hearsay, supposition and presumption. Aren't hearsay, supposition and presumption the very things that make capricious judicial regimes odious?

mike_op18:

shhs:

Non-consented? It didn't seem that way if you watched the clip, although I sensed she was embarrassed and rather hid her face during sex. But probably the shoot was in violation of her contract.

I thought the victory dance at the end was repulsive and insulting to the model and the viewers.

All in all, much ado about nothing? 

did you actually understand what she was saying?

 Not sure if I understood whom.  Was only expressing a view on the basis of what I saw in that clip.
 

shhs:

mike_op18:

shhs:

Non-consented? It didn't seem that way if you watched the clip, although I sensed she was embarrassed and rather hid her face during sex. But probably the shoot was in violation of her contract.

I thought the victory dance at the end was repulsive and insulting to the model and the viewers.

All in all, much ado about nothing? 

did you actually understand what she was saying?

 Not sure if I understood whom.  Was only expressing a view on the basis of what I saw in that clip.

ohhh...sorry, I was not clear. I meant what Alice was actually saying in the video (and what Valentina was saying from behind the video-camera, also in the clip).

Red Riding Hood:

Oksana, I'm shocked by your story but I think this problem is not only happening in Russia.
I'm sure it exists in any other country too. It's a question of providing what is demanded. I'm surprised the Russian mob isn't all over this. Big bucks to be made, not with pictures but certainly with porn movies.
Underage models being tempted with easy money and then being made to do things they cannot be proud of, all too common, you can easily see the relation with prostitution.
What is the age of consent in Russia? From what age can naked pictures be legally made?
[EDIT : if I understand Mike correctly all "porn" is illegal in Russia.. what is considered porn however? ]
There is so much beauty in women and it is always sad that it is being exploited for money.


Irinotecan, you are probably right.. Galitsin must have become greedy and forgot to pay the authorities. Sad but true.

BTW Mike, I like the oxanababy site.. are you really from the Netherlands? The relation between netherlands and russia has always been special hasn't it..

Red Riding Hood.....I am sure Oksana will be pleased to hear that you like her site...=))

Yes, I am english and I live in the Netherlands in a town near Amsterdam. I have been helping Oksana with her site now for more than 1,5 years....as has our good friend evoo also. Maybe the dutch - russian relationship has much to do with the understanding between our countries.  

You are quite right....porn is quite hard to define exactly, and the difference between "erotic art" and "porn" seems to be rather subjective. In the case of galatsin, it is even more borderline - some of the series are definitely erotic art, and some of the series are definitely porn...

As to the "legal age" thing in Russia....I have heard very different things. A good photographer friend from Moscow (Met-art; JustTeenSite etc.) tells me it is 16. The "Age of consent" as listed here: http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm does not mean the same thing as the minimum age for the publication of nude  photography. So...I am inclined to go with Oksana and our russian team members, and say 18. same as most other countries in the world.

- mike =)).

sigue:

I'd like to see more substantiated facts and less heresay, supposition and presumption. Aren't heresay, supposition and presumption the very things that make capricious judicial regimes odious?

Okay, let us deal with what we know or can make reasonable judgements about. Galitsin is in trouble with the law. The trouble seems to involve blackmailing models and using underage girls in porn. We know nothing about drugs or the mafia or corrupt police. While there is corruption in public life in Russia, not everybody is corrupt, and the police in Volgograd might actually be doing their duty properly.

Galitsin's success was based on a few things. He has ability to manage studio lighting, he can focus a camera, and he can sometimes capture the right moment. The main thing, though, is that he had some stunning models working for him.

On the other hand, he was not good at excluding bad pictures from his sets, including ones that did no do justice to the models. He also seemed to run out of ideas. He used the same props and costumes over and over. There is one pair of green socks that keeps turning up. Rather than develop as an erotic photographer, he moved toward the sleazy side of things with insertions, pissing, lesbian action, fingering, and worked his way to bad hardcore. I think it pleased him to strip away the models' dignity.

Valentina became a key member of his team. It looked to me as if one of her jobs was to draw other models into stronger stuff. Lots of them seemed to do their first lesbian-style shoots with Valentina.

I said before that I saw Galitsin pictures of models that looked too young. Nobody commented directly on what I said. Many of you will remember a model called Heline from the Galitsin Archives days. He gave her d.o.b. as 06/08/84. It might or might not be true. She is one of those girls whose age is very difficult to judge. There is a set of her posing with three other girls, and all of the others look very young indeed, just past puberty I would think. Do others here remember that set? Do you think the girls were underage? (If you do not remember it, do not ask me how to find it, because I will not help you find content that I think is wrong.)

I do not think he raped Alice, at least not in the sense that would stand up in court. I think he coerced her, and that is as bad. In one way, she could have said no, but I think she was put into a situation where she probably felt she could not refuse.

I belive what Oxana told us about how little he offered to pay her. I found a snippet on a forum last year sometime which said he paid models about $20 a day. Most photographers exploit their models, but I think few exploit them as badly as that. It might be that in Volgograd the girls have few opportunities, and are easy prey. Remember how he came here once and huffed and puffed about Hegre stealing 'his' model Katya and then paying her very little?

I do not know if Galitsin is in trouble because of stuff done for his Galitsin News site or because of other stuff. I do not know if he was directly or indirectly involved with other stuff. I am sure of one thing. Galitsin is not a good person. Most of all, he is not good to girls who have worked for him.

We should not confuse admiring beautiful models with admiring the man who photographed them.

 

I guess we are all speculating on what's really going with him over there.  Rape charge based on art.242 Russian penalcodex are continuing to pop up all the time in the stories about this affair.  If it's true, it's a very serious charge in Russia with upto 8 years imprisonment.

Don't make too quick judgements about girls being paid too little.  $.50,- in rural/provincial Russia can be a 'fortune' for these girls compared to Western countries.  In Amsterdam you can't even get a parking-license for your car for that amount. Nor a nice night out in downtown A'dam.  In Russia you maybe could feed a small family for several weeks or more with that amount.

Think we all have to wait and see what will become of Griggy.  No doubt he's in serious trouble.