So Wiki's shut for the day.......that means no inncorrect answers.   But the reason why should concern us. The U.S. proposed legistration is badly written and full of ''knee-jerk'' reactions. Yes, internet copyright issues are complex and require a clearly written and enforcable set of regulations....but this ain't it !!. Drum

http://www.google.com/

Blacked out also (at least for today)

http://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

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Just temporarily disable javascript in your browser i.o. to circumvent wikipedia's black-out today.

More info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more

This is one of those rare issues in the U.S. where many on the political right and left actually agree: this bill needs to be stopped and not brought back unless it can be better--and even then it will probably still be bad legislation.

thanks for blacking out peachy, the was a nice surprise. it is pretty amazing to me how much i use wiki. went to it a few times not thinking. criegslist is blacked out also

RE Funkys get out above......this just shows the difficulty in trying to 'police' the net. Those of us 'in the know', can find backdoors and loopholes everywhere. Proposed US law will mean many innocent users being involved in legal actions. Good Practice has to come from the source....read some of the old threads here concerning the Problems that Vatsis and Funky had with copyrights on Peachy. Most of these have been concluded by disscussion between parties without legal action......and thats the way it should be done. Drum.

You pointed out something there drumasteruk: "...concluded by disscussion between parties." The last time I checked, copyright infringements are supposed to be handled by the copyright holder, so why is the government doing a job that isn't their responsibility?

With the whole SOFA/PIPA thing, I fear for Peachy's future. 

Mega-upload was already killed without due process, and before the law has even been voted on, so I fear the usual practice of kindly asking Peachy to remove a model may get replaced with a royal ass fucking

 

I predict massive cyber war in the near future : /

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/20/usa-crime-piracy-idUSL1E8CJC1Q20120120

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i hope so !

remember :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Wvn-9BXVc

Hmmm...how about an OccupyHollywood and OccupyBigMusic?

Finally, something Conservatives and Liberals can agree on

At the very least, people should start identifying which companies and lawyers pushed this legislation. Many politicians are backing away from it, with more to follow. But the media execs are still defending it. It will be interesting to see how various Hollywood celebs (especially "actorvists") explain their positions. 

If I like the look of a site I'll pay to join it and I won't share any stuff I download. Why should I pay for something then give it away to people who don't? I join a site and like to have contact with the webmaster or whoever. Am sure some small sites get effected big style by filesharing.

As for muload being taken down they should take some responsibility for what they host I think as they make money out of it. And from what I've read there was some pretty disgusting stuff on there.

(Reuters) - Lawmakers on Friday indefinitely postponed anti-piracy legislation that pits Hollywood against Silicon Valley, two days after major Internet companies staged an online protest by blacking out parts of prominent websites.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/20/us-usa-congress-internet-idUSTRE80J10X20120120

Don't be surprised if they reappear, hidden in some other bill, and voted on in the middle of the night. Wouldn't be the first time.

i would really like to know if all the estimates of however many billions of "lost revenue" or whatever that are motivating the proposed legislation and crackdown on mega actually take into account the fact that in almost all cases there is no lost revenue at all.

seriously, how many people who download something for free, be it movies or music or porn, would have actually gone and bought it otherwise were it not for the fact that they figured out how to get it free? i suspect not many.

speaking for myself, when it comes to porn, nothing i would ever have a chance to freeload would be something i would want badly enough to pay for. so, no lost revenue there. when it comes to music, i've actually spent more money buying music i liked than i would have otherwise.

this is old media's last gasp effort to hold on to whatever little shred of relevance they think they still have left to hold on to. new media gets it, and has figured out that if you know how to sell it people are always going to buy shit in the new media world. there has always been copyright leakage with anything. old media is singing a dying swan song by going after what amounts to scattered corners of the internet. no doubt it makes the lawyers and politicians feel good about themselves, but in the broader scheme of things it's just bogus bullshit.

random and funny

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-18-2012/ko-computer

dramatic chipmonk is hilarious

Still following the news with interest, nice to see all those senators suddenly worried about lost votes!. Not sure about the New Zealand case?. Smell a big rat there?. Drum

I spent several thousand dollars during the 80s and 90s on porn before the digital age. If that sounds like a lot, keep in mind how quickly even just several dollars a week, times 10 or 15 years, adds up. When the companies converted to digital media, they knew they were creating a giant virtual library, with easy access for almost everyone. Like library books, tapes, and DVDs, each item is viewed by many more people than just the original purchaser. You don't see publishers suing libraries, do you? The smart companies still make money, otherwise they'd stop. That being said, that doesn't mean I'm advocating or approving of online theft. I just want the library comparison to be put in effect. It's one thing for a person to loan a book--or a .jpg--to many others. It's another thing to steal those works and sell them to others.

Not sure what you mean by library comparison.  There are already clip stores and VOD sites, I guess they're an alternative way for the producers to make money.

and what about e-books piracy ?? Ask your local bookstore.....

SOPA/PIPA or any other legislation, it will always be like trying mopping up with the water tap wide open.

Take 1 site offline and within hours there will be new sites online again.

Taking Mega Upload offline as such was futile, but maybe done to set an example or give a warning.  Those M U dudes possibly went too far, if only you observe their ostentatious and extravagant lifestyle and them making multimillion dollar profits.  Would'nt be surprised if in the end they will be acquitted or only sentenced for tax evasion or money laundering.

Now File-sonic blocks file sharing.. Honestly for every one that goes down two new sites will appear.

http://cnet.co/zawfwn