I am tired of hearing about wars. I know men are fighting for us and I give them mad props. I am very greatful for them, but I am so fucking tired of hearing about the war. It's sad fucking news. There can never been any good news?!  I stand by this shit... It makes me so pissed off. Why can't anyone get along?! These wars are about religion.. WHY WHY WHY everyone?!

right on, vixen !!!

when I was in High School, I used to ask the same question and often wandered why we even have armies, etc. and massive defense budgets to fund wars.
not sure how true it is but I heard taxes were created long ago to fund wars/ battles ... fuckin' wonderful, eh? I can't help but wonder just how much of my cash has gone toward this fund?

                

I just got back from Iraq a couple months ago, but while I was there I almost started an incident with the locals when I said "Fuck you and your Allah."  I guess they don't take too kindly to that stuff.

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=61

"WAR!! What is it good for? Absolutely nothin'....say it again y'all"

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aside from the quotes in this thread .. glad you're back, tone.

Dial_Tone:

I just got back from Iraq a couple months ago, but while I was there I almost started an incident with the locals when I said "Fuck you and your Allah."  I guess they don't take too kindly to that stuff.

and that's a perfect example as to why I would've never made it in the armed forces - protocol or not, I would've been right behind you or more likely in front!

It seems like some people just cant live without war and all that shit, so its like they grab onto every single thing to create a conflict

madcow:

aside from the quotes in this thread .. glad you're back, tone.

I second that....welcome back Dial_Tone. I hadn't refreshed and your post was not showing at the time I made mine.

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Dial_Tone:

I just got back from Iraq a couple months ago, but while I was there I almost started an incident with the locals when I said "Fuck you and your Allah."  I guess they don't take too kindly to that stuff.

Yeah, those ppl are in their 15th century, tryh to remember what Europe did back then:)
We didnt take religion jokes kindly either, but we got over it in like 200 years. The Muslims are gonna be ok too I hope.

What's I find very interesting is that the people from both countries and they actually expressing their sadness/regards/understanding on their enemies' blogs... in addition, reading them is very touching compared to mass media since you can see how it has changed their personal lives.

The days of propaganda are soon over... and maybe there will be more questions if the war helped anyone. Well, the US does hire people to pretend being israelies and write on the blogs, but see them exposed every day.

War is usually for one thing and one thing only. MONEY !! With money comes power and with power comes greed. Luckily, a government can blame it all on religion, justice or revenge. Better still, they can try and brainwash the public to believe their reasons, which makes it seem less of a burden knowing most of your tax is spent on fighting a pointless battle rather than health or education.

Dial_Tone:

I just got back from Iraq a couple months ago, but while I was there I almost started an incident with the locals when I said "Fuck you and your Allah."  I guess they don't take too kindly to that stuff.

Well its not that surprising! take this case of Gang rape and murder of a minor by US troops, and whenever anyone mentions it in media all of a sudden Americans start explaining that there are few bad apples. Americans get really angry when soneone call their forces "army of bastards" or Paedophiles.
So its on both sides, and many myths are getting shattered by internet these days.

checkout this blog they published pics of Israeli kids signing bombs

http://www.sabbah.biz/mt/

No one ever wants war to occur, however sometimes shit happens and we are left with armed conflict as the only means to correct a negative situation.  I for one am sick of hearing the bitching and moaning ultra-liberals about the abuse of prisoners in Iraq and Gitmo. Has anyone seen the reports on how these shitheads treat the guards by throwing urine, shit, and semen on them, or covereing the floor in waste so the soldier will slip and fall? These fucks did not sign the Geneva Accords, so they do not deserve to be treated with kindness.  So we made a punk wear panties?  Big deal, that same punk may have killed children with his cowardly IDE or raped an innocent person.  I ask you all to read up on St. Thomas Aquinas and his Just War Theory.  Also, I must admit that Isreal is in the wrong for this current situation in the Mid. East and that the US needs to stop aiding them and blindly pledging support for all Isreali actions.  We have no economic, trade, special benefits from being their guardians, all we get is a lot of hatred and mistrust.

God Bless these United States, our brave soldiers returning home, and may God bless and keep all those Comrades who fell in combat.

It's all ok. Someone in Hollywood will make a film in a few years were everything went well and everyone was happy and the real heroes will be forgotten along with the truth.

sorry oiboy but i fail to see how israel is at fault.  terrorists tunnelled into their land and killed and kidnapped their people.  now they are busying themselves firing unguided rockets into civilian populations.  they couldn't target idf military installations or troops if they wanted to.  these islamo fascists are hell bent on taking the world back to the 7th century by any means.  whoever said this conflict will be over in a few years may find out differently very soon. 

Fair enough Hitman, but I did not generally mean fault for this particular instance of violence. Hezbollah certainly cajoled Isreal into this latest fight, but I think the history over the pseudo-nation state of Isreal since the 1948 UN Partition, i think it was the Picoyt and Sykes agreement or something similar, gave Isreal its current land mass in the middle of the Arab woeld.  I think that a nation becomes a nation when it fights and gains it own land through independent means, not when it gets a pity vote from a worthless body such as the cowardly UN. I hope the cease fire remains and is successful, but I think if it does prove to be a true and lasting UN Accord, the international community should rethink its stances on Isreal and the amount damage it causes to the security and livelyhood of the surrounding states.  More importantly, the US needs to let them go and fight theri own battles as well as forcing them to create their own warplanes and missle defense and offensive systems. (We gave them one such system and they turned around and tried to sell it to China during the Clinton Admin. talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

I think if US stop suporting dictators all over world, bring troops back from half of the world and start concentrating on its border, it'll be more safe than it ever was, Theres no shortage of unemployed youth in poor countries and extremist play their game on that, destroying homes and killing civillians wont solve the problem. Just look at Iraq what did US gain, they lost all the sympathy they gained after 911.

hardcorecowboy:

I think if US stop suporting dictators all over world, bring troops back from half of the world and start concentrating on its border, it'll be more safe than it ever was, Theres no shortage of unemployed youth in poor countries and extremist play their game on that, destroying homes and killing civillians wont solve the problem. Just look at Iraq what did US gain, they lost all the sympathy they gained after 911.

Well said...this is pretty much how I feel, as things seem to escalate in the middle east we really need to stop playing boyscout and bring our troops home to fortify this country.

It's just horrible.. I am not saying what the US did was right when we went to war with Iraq "war against terrorism".. What are we going to be war forever then? There is always going to be terrorists it's sad to say. I was very upset when we went to war with Iraq.. A lot of other countries don't seem to understand that we didn't want it either! FUCK FACE BUSH wanted to end what his father started many years ago.  The bush family  is  evil. I'm not democrat nor republican.. President Bush is actual friends witn Bin.  The Bin Laden family invests with The Carlyle Group, a merchant bank that boasts several Reagan-era former government figures including George Bush SR! Bin Laden's family!  Growing out of their roots in the oil business, the interests, ambitions, and achievements of Bushes, the Bin Ladens, and most importantly the Saudi royal family have been intertwined for a quarter century.. Tell me that ain't scary!! That brings me into gas prices did you know George Bush is like co-owner of Mobile gas stations?!!!!!!!!! and he has lots of stock in it.. He's a fucking lying evil cock!

Gemini37:

hardcorecowboy:

I think if US stop suporting dictators all over world, bring troops back from half of the world and start concentrating on its border, it'll be more safe than it ever was, Theres no shortage of unemployed youth in poor countries and extremist play their game on that, destroying homes and killing civillians wont solve the problem. Just look at Iraq what did US gain, they lost all the sympathy they gained after 911.

Well said...this is pretty much how I feel, as things seem to escalate in the middle east we really need to stop playing boyscout and bring our troops home to fortify this country.

You know it is kind of funny but I thought that during the first Gulf War. Then on 9-11 I realized that I was right. Our government being the most powerful country in the world has failed to recognize the problems we have at home because they are too busy chasing OIL(Huesein) and MONEY(bin Laden). You see it is no longer about terrorism or any of the other excuses the government feeds us. IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND POWER. So I say Take Care of our OWN SOIL, and burn our OWN OIL!

As far as helping other countries, I see no problem with using POSITIVE means to build better relations. A little food here, a little money there. Then again, where were all those we have HELPED when we needed it.

At the end of the day it all boils down to where can a war benefit us most? More oil? More Money?

HORSE SHIT WE JUST WANT MORE POWER!!!

And that is the BIGGEST problem with this country.

Bring our boys home, SAFELY and protect what is ours: FREEDOM!

Some of the problem falls firmly at the feet of mainstream American media. They're always telling the American public that they are the best at everything and always right. Quite frankly, they aren't. That's not a dig at America, it's just common sense. You can't fight and sustain a war without the public on your side, so try everything you can to make them believe in you.

We're going through the same thing in Britain at the moment but in a slightly different way. I think because Gulf War II isn't Britain's war in the way that WWII was, we don't have such a heavy bombardment of propaganda, but it's still there and it's still ugly. Another thing is that we dealt with terrorism for years in the form of Northern Ireland and it's troubles, so we don't get as shocked as easily.

A member of my family is going to Iraq soon for 8 months, so I hope as much as anyone that these problems will be resolved, but they probably wont. It's all a bit sad really.