The dutch Sunny South Coast thread page 7

Tue, Nov 6 2012 23:18
funky2004
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He deserves a chance to finish his job the next 4 years.  Go for it !  Congrats.

Wed, Nov 7 2012 3:02
Hunter27
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As an American I just want to say I'm not so sure it mattered who got elected. The world seems to be taken over by corporation and imaginary money. We might be the great United States, but even our own president is most likely a puppet.

A term you don't hear in the headlines that we often use is that Obama seems to be the "Lesser of two evils".

Call me a conspiracy theorist, whatever. I hear people all the time saying our individual votes don't count (why would they), and thay say no matter who gets voted into office, there still just a corporate puppet.

 

Thu, Nov 8 2012 15:37
mike_op18
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I have a schoolfriend living and working in Washington as vice-president of a business advice company. He said the same thing... Obama the lesser of two evils. The point is that with a two party structure, with a democrat president and a republican house of representatives, including the tea-party, nothing much could be done.

I wish Obama and all americans congratulations, and peace and health.

@drum: Car passed M.O.T. 25 years old now. Pea soup recipe here soon.. hope you have frozen peas and green pesto in stock, and need a pound of fresh cod.

Thu, Nov 8 2012 17:20
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Well, the way I see it, since 2008, politicians can be turned into corporate puppets. Of course, I don't believe that is the case, since obviously no one like the Koch brothers endorsed Obama. I wrote a mock blog post about it that has the fact that I found on the subject, and my opinion. "This post is to be my first - it is to let the people know about the thing that I consider to be the "biggest" issue that has happened, of which many of my peers have no clue about. 

The first on my list is the Supreme Court and it's ruling on Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. This was a case that came before them in 2010. The business Citizens United filed a suit against the Federal Election Commission for acting against their publicizing the release of "Hillary: The Movie". Citizens United claimed that the FEC was infringing their freedom of speech rights. In essence, Citizens United believed that their free speech rights were being violated when the FEC blocked them from using corporate money on advertising their movie. (The lawsuit happened in 2008, during the election campaign. It did not come to the Supreme Court's attention until 2010.)

The Supreme Court, our highest court, the one that is to dispense justice to disputes between states, between states and federal institutions and determine whether federal laws are constitutional - it's been given the task of solving the dispute between the Federal Election Commission and Citizens United. The Supreme Court ruled in favor of Citizens United. This ruling has, what many might think of, made Corporations people. This of course is not in the literal sense, but it is more of symbolic... and more importantly, in law. With this ruling, corporation spending limits in political campaign adds was abolished. Depending on how you view things, this could be a good or bad thing. It would be good if you believe that the FEC was infringing the rights of Citizens United. A counter point to that would be that Montana, the state where the case originated, had a law stating that the corporations couldn't do this.

       "federal law prohibits corporations and unions from using their general treasury funds to make independent expenditures for speech that is an “electioneering communication” or for speech that expressly advocates the election or defeat of a candidate. 2 U. S. C. §441b. An electioneering communication is “any broadcast, cable, or satellite communication” that “refers to a clearly identified candidate for Federal office” and is made within 30 days of a primary election, §434(f)(3)(A), and that is “publicly distributed,” 11 CFR §100.29(a)(2), which in “the case of a candidate for nomination for President … means” that the communication “[c]an be received by 50,000 or more persons in a State where a primary election … is being held within 30 days,” §100.29(b)(3)(ii). Corporations and unions may establish a political action committee (PAC) for express advocacy or electioneering communications purposes."

In English, this law states that corporations can not take money from their general capital, or their regular cash fund, to use on political adds within 30 days of an election. So, the Supreme Court ruled that this law is unconstitutional. This is their power, of course. But was it the correct decision? 

Changing this law means that corporations can use their nearly limitless coffers to pay for either smear or booster campaigns for whatever candidate they choose. Essentially, they can purchase elections. This is, of course, the bad point of view. Which is based on the facts and the truth

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, must learn the truth. We must learn to filter our minds of the propaganda and focus on the truth. Learn, be educated, and do what is best for you and your country." 

 

I wrote this a couple of years ago, so bear with me if you don't find the writing to nice.

 

As for the the people who say individual votes don't count... that's true to an extent. In theory your vote really does count. Electoral votes are gained by a candidate getting move votes from the voting in the state. Each state has varying populations, therefore, each state has a different number of electoral votes. As for why you vote doesn't matter, it doesn't really matter in red states or blue states. Mainly, just swing states, where this is only a slim difference between which party has the majority of the people with them. For example, I live in Kentucky. And I didn't bother voting, because I knew that Kentucky is a very red state, and it would be red whether I voted or not. (Not surprisingly to me, Kentucky was one of the first states given to Romney by MSNBC on election night.)

Sun, Nov 11 2012 2:35
mike_op18
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nudge, nudge.. say no more.. know what i mean? get the gest? :)

Sun, Nov 11 2012 14:20
mike_op18
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I see Chris Sievey aka Frank Sidebottom passed away in 2010 :( Shit happens, it wasn't his time yet. Met bro Dave's new gf at family re-union today.. thai-chick, no idea where he found her. Strange, our family has dutch, french, tibetan and now thai links. No known russian descendants yet.

So wassup guv? Sunday lunch at gurka's? 

Car passed M.O.T. again... 25 years old now and not a sign of rust. Expect visit in summer. 

 

Mon, Nov 12 2012 6:23
drumasteruk
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Nah, had a restful sunday.......now saturday, different matter------you missed it again mike!!. For those not in the know, saturday was the annual pub crawl round Rye, (mike made it once.....the year of the belly dancers!). It runs like this, get to pub about 11.30am, try not to drink the Great Bustard Ale too quickly, demolish all those luvely bar snacks, get on coach at 4pm and tell driver to go faster, arrive in Rye before 5, Oh Yeah...should have said.....its Bonfire Night !. any excuse for a beer. try these for a taste of the night. www.flickr.com/photos/barryslemmings/sets/72157631980145070     or google ryefireworks  or  SUSSEX_BONFIRE_SOCIETIES  . did see my hat in one set?. Drum

Wed, Nov 14 2012 3:11
Hunter27
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I do more than I say, yet still no one congrat's me on my 4k. Fuck yall lol. I've been here for like eight years, hi and low. This is a great place to bullshit about ANYTHING. It is my daily soup. Love all you guys. What small community we have is well worth it ;)

LOL


 
    

Wed, Nov 14 2012 6:37
drumasteruk
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oh dear.......congrats hunter...i never noticed. drum

Wed, Nov 21 2012 16:00
mike_op18
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4k in eight years? takes out pocket calculator... that's 0,5k per year.. ok just over 1 post per day. Well done huntsman !!

Yeah should have gone and been there drum. Not laziness, just too much work... Expect DVD for Xmas ;)

mike=)).

hmmm... no colours available again...

Tue, Nov 27 2012 5:09
drumasteruk
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Oh dear....weathers gone loopy again?.    Town Xmas Lights, switched on during torrential rain....visiting Reindeer stayed in tent....Marching Bands put on a brave face, (drumskins might be a bit loose now). Only ones unaffected, The Splashdogs!, 20 very large Newfoundlands, all sitting in puddles with silly grins, and inflatabble(?)lifebelts on backs or collars.   Mike, I think you have to multiply hunters posts by his comeback rate(sic), go check on old mirror site?. I mean, look at your count, where did the other 10,000 posts go?. Drum

Tue, Nov 27 2012 8:34
mike_op18
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Devaluated?

Long chat mit yg this morning.... she's doing fine, getting bored at home mit 1,7 year kiddo...bin ages! Remind me to put photo on DVD. My daughter now part-time here, going thru thangs...greets from she and T. J. now runs his own company, wonder if he got the Korg working or was it a Yamaha? Bin gigging in Spain and UK. I get to evaluate hospitals now, and complete the revision stuff for projects in Germany,Belgium and France.

Why don't you get some dutch engineers to work on your water flood schemes?

mike.

Tue, Nov 27 2012 20:59
gf-is-working
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Since this thread seems to have a lot about weather, I'll throw this out there...

I went to Alphabet City yesterday, which is a smaller neighborhood inside the East Village of Manhattan. (Not that anyone out there should know NYC geography.) But the recent flooding map I saw from the New York Times/FEMA seemed to be dead-on... everything east of Avenue B was flooded. That's a lot of real estate, and only a speck of what was damaged during Hurricane Sandy.

At Avenue C, I noticed water marks at mid-to-upper thigh. I walked into a few shops and they smelled like mold. The liquor store guy was funny... I asked him how much water he got, and he shrugged it off, saying "not a lot." But it absolutely reeked inside, and the contractor around the corner said the water was up to 2 feet high, which means the basements were completely under water.

A few blocks away, people were lining up for free food. I wasn't even in the worst-hit areas like the Rockaways, but it still reminded me of the time I went to Mississippi and saw the damage from Hurricane Katrina.

-gf

 

Wed, Nov 28 2012 8:25
drumasteruk
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Mike, send my best wishes to yg.......thats cruel getting daughter to clear up behind you!!.   Hi Gf, having had flood experience, can tell you those shops will smell odd for years. Sunny South Coast only got minor floods, few roads up to a foot deep, thats all. The west and wales got worst of it. We have some food banks as well here, not regarded as newsworthy , in support of those losing employment etc. Drum

Thu, Nov 29 2012 5:11
gf-is-working
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Ha. Zero major crime for hours. Didn't something similar happen during the first moon landing in 1969? 

We walk in Central Park frequently in the 11p-12:30a range. It's been over a year now... never a problem. I always thought there would be Crazies roaming around everywhere, waiting for unsuspecting victims. We definitely limit the walks to the more open areas of the park... not the tree-dense North Woods or the Ramble. 

Thu, Nov 29 2012 5:32
drumasteruk
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1969 ?, think i was either working or in the pub. 'No Go Areas', it all depends on how streetwise one is, i can and have coped with muggers, thugs, drunks etc, yeah and walked through so called ghetto's. Drunks nowadays are the main problem, to many people who turn crazy after quite small intakes of alcohol. I have little sympathy with those who seem to have anger control problems, ''you must know....so dont drink so much''. drum

Thu, Nov 29 2012 14:26
mike_op18
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Didn't you once bash Rod Stewart for sitting on your car? (btw, I found out today he has 8 - legitimite - kids). May explain why he has not been recording lately.

Fri, Nov 30 2012 1:04
Hunter27
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Rod Stewart has eight kids? Must be a cover I could have sworn he was gay.

Fri, Nov 30 2012 6:28
drumasteruk
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Arrh....dear old Rodney, nah it was me sitting on his beat-up old mini, anyway the girls behind the bar had asked me to ' put him off ', (scratchs brain) Knightsbridge 1968 about august, pub near the harrods tunnel. Oh sod! cant remember pubs name?, can i use that as an excuse to go shopping (drinking) in town ?. Just had a nice rebate arrive in post....only gather moss in the bank. 8 kids, yeah about right, and 2 others, or is it 3 ??. All wives good lookers. Think had lp out earlier this year ?. Now yah got me remembering (sort of ) riding my race tuned Electra to work in 20 mins, would take at least 90 nowadays, traffics changed that much. Parking slap bang in middle of pavement opposite Harrods, (try that now!). Using a music producers flat next to Knightsbridge Barracks as a crash pad , yep been boozin again. Sometimes used the same cafe as Benny Hill (nice guy, very quiet). Playing and singing Folk with the kids from Royal College Music in the Mews until 3 am, its suprising how many well known rock people used to come and acoustic 'jam' there. Oooo! writing life history here!!. Enough for now. Drum


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